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Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal

4.5 star property

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Indoor pool, outdoor pool, open 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM, pool umbrellas
Hypo-allergenic bedding, minibar, in-room safe, desk
Panoramic Suite, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking, Mountain View (Studio)
Front of property
Exterior

Reviews

8.4 out of 10
Very good

Popular amenities

  • Pool
  • Spa pool
  • Breakfast included
  • Spa
  • Parking included
  • Restaurant
The current price is AU$442
includes taxes & fees
9 July - 10 July

Explore the area

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Im Dorf 29, Oberstaufen, BY, 87534
  • Place, Imbergbahn & Skiarena Steibis
    ‪5 min walk‬
  • Place, Imbergbahn Cable Car
    ‪11 min walk‬
  • Place, Golf Club Oberstaufen und Steibis
    ‪12 min walk‬
  • Airport, Friedrichshafen (FDH-Friedrichshafen - Lake Constance)
    ‪80 min drive‬

Room options

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Junior Studio

Junior Studio

  • 38 sq m
  • 1 bedroom
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 King Bed

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Hypo-allergenic bedding, minibar, in-room safe, desk

Deluxe Double Room

  • Garden view
  • 1 bedroom
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 King Bed

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Hypo-allergenic bedding, minibar, in-room safe, desk

Panoramic Suite, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking, Mountain View (Studio)

  • Mountain view
  • 42 sq m
  • 1 bedroom
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 King Bed

About the area

Oberstaufen

A luxury stay in Oberstaufen awaits you at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal . Within just a 15-minute stroll, you'll find Imbergbahn & Skiarena Steibis and Golf Club Oberstaufen und Steibis. Highlights at this ski hotel include a full-service spa, a restaurant and an outdoor swimming pool. .A day of pampering can include hot stone massages, sports massages and body wraps along with aromatherapy and Ayurvedic treatments. The restaurant, 1, serves Modern European cuisine and is open for breakfast, lunch and dinner. For a drink, you can stop by the hotel's own lounge bar. With ski-in ski-out access, there's more time for downhill skiing and cross-country skiing and you'll find skiing lessons on site. Plus you'll find an indoor swimming pool, free Wi-Fi in public areas and a gym. Each morning free buffet breakfast is offered between 7:30 AM and 10:30 AM. There's also free self parking, along with the convenience of a free area shuttle. .Sights within a 10-minute drive of this 4.5-property class Oberstaufen hotel include Aquaria Erlebnisbad and Hündle-Sessellift.

What's nearby

  • Imbergbahn & Skiarena Steibis - 5 min walk - 0.4 km
  • Imbergbahn Cable Car - 11 min walk - 1.0 km
  • Golf Club Oberstaufen und Steibis - 12 min walk - 1.1 km
  • Aquaria Erlebnisbad - 6 min drive - 5.2 km
  • Grosser Alpsee - 20 min drive - 18.0 km

Getting around

  • Oberstaufen Station - 9 min drive
  • Friedrichshafen (FDH-Friedrichshafen - Lake Constance) - 49 min drive

Restaurants

  • ‪Ferienhotel Starennest - ‬5 min drive
  • ‪Imberghaus - ‬9 min drive
  • ‪Blaues Haus - ‬8 min drive
  • ‪Bistro Ali Baba - ‬8 min drive
  • ‪Berggasthof Hochbühl - ‬11 min drive

About this property

Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal

During the winter, enjoy on-site recreational activities like downhill skiing, cross-country skiing and snowboarding, and return when the snow melts for archery and hiking. After a day on the slopes, indulge in a treatment at the full-service spa or soothe your muscles in the hot tub. For a free ride to the slopes, hop on the mountain hotel's complimentary ski shuttle. Conveniences like ski storage, skiing lessons and ski equipment rentals allow you to spend less time with logistics and more time on the slopes. When the sun goes down, sip après-ski drinks in the hotel's bar.

Along with a restaurant, there's a snack bar/deli on site. Free breakfast is served daily. WiFi is free in public spaces. This luxury hotel also offers an indoor pool, an outdoor pool and a health club. Limited free parking is available on a first-come, first-served basis. A complete renovation of Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal was completed in January 2020.

This 4.5-star Oberstaufen hotel is smoke free.

  • 57 guestrooms or units
  • 3 levels
  • 2 buildings
  • Built in 1900
  • Buffet breakfast (free)
  • Deli
  • Poolside lounge chairs
  • Umbrellas for the pool
  • Ski lift tickets
  • Ski equipment storage
  • Ski equipment rentals
  • Coffee in lobby
  • Front desk (limited hours)
  • Staff members are multilingual
  • Storage area for luggage
  • Front desk safe
  • Tour and ticket information
  • Terrace
  • Garden
  • Gift shop
  • Television in lobby
  • On-site shopping
  • Lift
  • No smoking on site
  • Bar or lounge
  • Dining venue
Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal offers 57 accommodations with minibars and a safe. This accommodation offers separate sitting areas. A pillow menu is available. 32-inch flat-screen televisions come with satellite channels and first-run films.

Bathrooms include baths or showers with a rainfall showerhead, bathrobes, slippers and complimentary toiletries. Business-friendly amenities include desks and telephones. Additionally, rooms include a hairdryer and blackout curtains. Hypo-allergenic bedding and an iron/ironing board can be requested. A nightly turndown service is provided and housekeeping is offered on a daily basis.

Guests can pamper themselves with a trip to the on-site spa, which has 3 treatment rooms. Services include hot stone massages, sports massages, facials and body wraps. A variety of treatment therapies are provided, including aromatherapy, Ayurvedic and thalassotherapy.

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Property amenities

Internet

  • Available in some public areas: Free WiFi

Parking and transport

  • Height restrictions apply for on-site parking
  • Free area shuttle
  • Free train station pick-up shuttle
  • Free ski shuttle
  • Free self parking on site
  • Limited on-site self parking

Food and drink

  • Free buffet breakfast available daily 7:30 AM to 10:30 AM
  • A bar/lounge
  • A restaurant
  • Coffee and tea in common areas
  • Snack bar/deli

Restaurants on site

  • 1

Things to do

  • 18-hole adjacent golf course
  • Archery
  • Cross-country skiing
  • Downhill skiing
  • Full-service spa
  • Golf carts
  • Golf clubhouse
  • Golf clubs/equipment
  • Health club
  • Hiking/biking trails
  • Hot tub
  • Indoor pool
  • Optional golf privileges
  • Outdoor pool
  • Pro golf lessons
  • Pro golf shop
  • Ropes course
  • Sauna
  • Shopping
  • Ski equipment rentals
  • Ski lessons
  • Ski lift privileges
  • Ski passes
  • Ski storage
  • Ski-in/ski-out access
  • Snowboarding
  • Steam room
  • TV in common areas

Family friendly

  • Free area shuttle
  • Indoor pool
  • Outdoor pool
  • Snack bar/deli

Conveniences

  • Gift shop/newsstand
  • Guidebooks
  • Limited-hour front desk
  • Luggage storage
  • Safe at front desk

Guest services

  • Housekeeping (daily)
  • Multilingual staff
  • Tour and ticket assistance
  • Turndown service

Outdoors

  • Garden
  • In the mountains
  • Outdoor entertainment area
  • Outdoor furniture
  • Pool loungers
  • Pool umbrellas
  • Terrace

Full-service spa

  • 3 treatment rooms
  • Aromatherapy
  • Ayurvedic treatments
  • Body scrubs
  • Body wraps
  • Facials
  • Hot stone massages
  • Manicures/pedicures
  • Sports massages
  • Thalassotherapy

Accessibility

  • If you have requests for specific accessibility needs, please contact the property using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking.
  • Lift
  • Stair-free path to entrance
  • Well-lit path to entrance
  • Wheelchair accessibility

More

  • 2 buildings
  • 3 floors
  • At least 80% of food locally-sourced
  • Banquet hall
  • Built in 1900
  • Locally-owned and organised tours and activities
  • Renovated entire property - January 2020
  • Smoke-free property
  • Traditional architecture
  • Vegan dining options
  • Vegetarian breakfast available
  • Vegetarian dining options

Room amenities

Bedroom

  • Bedsheets provided
  • Blackout drapes
  • Hypo-allergenic bedding
  • Pillow menu

Bathroom

  • Bathtub or shower
  • Dressing gowns
  • Free toiletries
  • Hair dryer
  • Private bathroom
  • Rainfall showerhead
  • Slippers
  • Towels provided

Entertainment

  • 32-inch flat-screen TV with satellite channels
  • First-run films

Food and drink

  • Limited room service
  • Minibar
  • Restaurant dining guides

More

  • Desk
  • Heating
  • Iron/ironing board on request
  • Phone
  • Safe
  • Separate sitting area

Policies

Check-in

Check-in start time: 4 PM; check-in end time: 10:30 AM
Early check-in subject to availability
Early check-in is available for a fee
Contactless check-in and check-out are available
Late check-in subject to availability
Minimum check-in age - 18

Check-out

Check-out before 10:30 AM
Contactless check-out
Late check-out subject to availability
Late check-out fee: EUR 40

Special check-in instructions

This property offers transfers from the train station; guests must contact the property with arrival details before travel, using the contact information on the booking confirmation
The front desk is open daily from 7:30 AM - 10:00 PM
Front desk staffed during limited hours
If you are planning to arrive after 8:00 PM please contact the property in advance using the information on the booking confirmation
Information provided by the property may be translated using automated translation tools

Access methods

Front desk (limited hours)

Pets

  • No pets allowed, but service animals are welcome

Children and extra beds

  • Children are welcome.
  • Rollaway/extra beds are available for EUR 89.0 per day.
  • Cots (infant beds) are available for EUR 49.0 per day.

Payment types

Important information

Fees

Guests will be asked to pay the following charges at the property:

  • A tax is imposed by the city: EUR 3.50 per person, per night for adults; EUR 1.75 per night for guests aged 6-15 years old. This tax does not apply to children under 6 years of age.
  • Resort fee: EUR 3.5 per person, per night

We've listed all charges provided to us by the property.

Optional extras

The fees and deposits listed below will be charged at the time of service, check-in, or check-out.

  • Early check-in is available for a fee (subject to availability)
  • Late check-out fee: EUR 40 (subject to availability)
  • Crib (infant bed) fee: EUR 49.0 per day
  • Rollaway bed fee: EUR 89.0 per day

This may not be a comprehensive list. Fees and deposits are subject to change and might not include tax.

You need to know

Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed
This property accepts credit cards, debit cards, mobile payments and cash
Cashless transactions are available
Noise-free guestrooms cannot be guaranteed
Safety features at this property include a fire extinguisher
Charges for extra guests may apply and vary according to property policy.
A cash deposit, credit card or debit card for incidental charges and government-issued photo identification may be required upon check-in.
Special requests are subject to availability at the time of check-in. Special requests can't be guaranteed and may incur additional charges.
    This property is managed by a private host, not a professional engaged in trade or business. This property accepts Visa, Mastercard, debit cards, cash and mobile payments. Noise-free guestrooms cannot be guaranteed. For guests' safety, the property includes a fire extinguisher in all accommodation. Cashless payment methods are available for all transactions.

We should mention

  • The seasonal pool will open in April and close in November.
  • Pool access available from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM
  • Reservations are needed for golf tee times, massage services, and spa treatments. For reservations, contact the hotel before arrival using the contact information on the booking confirmation.
  • This property welcomes guests of all sexual orientations and gender identities (LGBTQ+ friendly).

National rating

Hotelstars Union assigns an official star rating for properties in Germany. This property is rated 4 star Superior, and is displayed on this page as 4.5 stars.

Property is also known as

Spa Vital-Resort König Ludwig
Spa Vital-Resort König Ludwig Hotel
Spa Vital-Resort König Ludwig Hotel Oberstaufen
Spa Vital-Resort König Ludwig Oberstaufen
Golf Alpin Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal Oberstaufen
Golf Alpin Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal
Golf Alpin Wellness Ludwig Royal Oberstaufen
Golf Alpin Wellness Ludwig Royal
Alpin & Wellness Ludwig Royal
Golf Alpin Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal
Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal Hotel
Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal Oberstaufen
Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal Hotel Oberstaufen

Frequently asked questions

Is parking available at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

Yep, Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal has a free self car park. Onsite parking is limited.

How much does it cost to stay at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

As of 8 June 2026, prices found for a 1-night stay for 2 adults at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal on 9 July 2026 start from AU$442, including taxes and fees. This price is based on the lowest nightly price found in the last 24 hours for stays in the next 30 days. Prices are subject to change. Choose your dates for more accurate prices.

Are there any beaches close to Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

The closest beach to Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal is Alpsee-Strand (13.7 km).

Is there a spa on site at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

Yep, there is an onsite spa at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal . You'll enjoy heaps of services like body wraps, body scrubs and facials, as well as sports massages.

Does Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal have a pool?

Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal has a seasonal outdoor pool and an indoor pool. Grab your bathers and lounge poolside while enjoying under the shade of an umbrella. The pool is open 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM (Seasonal outdoor pool open from April to November).

What luxury perks are available at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal features a full-service spa, a health club and an outdoor pool.

What makes Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal a romantic place to stay?

1 hot tub and a lounge bar, as well as rainfall showerheads in the guestrooms, all help set the scene for a romantic weekend at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal .

Does Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal serve breakfast?

Sure does, complimentary buffet breakfast is offered daily from 7:30 AM to 10:30 AM.

Is there a free airport shuttle available at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

No, Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal does not offer an airport shuttle service.

Is there a bar or restaurant at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

Yep, they've got a lounge bar and an onsite restaurant that serves Modern European cuisine. Pre dinner cocktails anyone?

What time are check-in & check-out at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

Check-in begins at 4 PM. Check-out time is 10:30 AM.

Are pets allowed at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

No, only service animals are allowed.

Is there a golf course on site at Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal ?

There is a golf course next to Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal .

Alpin & Wellness Resort Hotel Ludwig Royal Reviews

Reviews

8.4

Very good

Rating 10 - Excellent. 14 out of 34 reviews
Rating 8 - Good. 14 out of 34 reviews
Rating 6 - Okay. 3 out of 34 reviews
Rating 4 - Poor. 3 out of 34 reviews
Rating 2 - Terrible. 0 out of 34 reviews

9.0/10

Cleanliness

8.0/10

Staff & service

7.0/10

Amenities

8.2/10

Property conditions & facilities

Reviews

Verified

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
The terrace had few places for the amount if guests, but that was a minor detail
Stayed 3 nights in Jul 2019
Verified

4/10 Poor

Thomas

Liked: Cleanliness
Disliked: Amenities, property conditions & facilities
It's way apart from being an Alpine Luxury Resort. Old buildings, outdated elevators, dark rooms. Three ☆☆☆ is the max for this location.
Stayed 4 nights in Jul 2022
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Es hat uns sehr gefallen und es liegt sehr schön in einer kleinen Gemeinde aber nicht weit weg von Oberstaufen. Der Service war sehr gut und man hat auch bei schlechten Wetter viele Möglichkeiten die Zeit zu verbringen, Massage oder ins Hallenbad.
Stayed 4 nights in May 2023
Verified

8/10 Good

Margrit

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Hotel soweit in Ordnung.Innenpool war etwas zu kalt. Zimmereinrichtung der Suite könnte besser sein. Es fehlt im Wohnzimmer eine bequeme Couch vor dem Fernseher.
Stayed 4 nights in Nov 2022
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Sehr heimeliges gut ausgestattetes Hotel. Alles sauber, und super Betten.
Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2019
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Gerald

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Perfekt zum Ausspannen

Schöne Umgebung, sehr still, toller Garten mit Pool.
Stayed 3 nights in Aug 2019
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Dicky

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Super Team wunderbares Haus hervorragendes Essen immer gerne wieder
Stayed 1 night in Dec 2018
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Lothar

Wir waren Sehr zufrieden.

Es war sehr schön, Service ,Küche, Zimmer. Alles war bestens.
Stayed 2 nights in Sep 2018
Verified

4/10 Poor

josie

Liked: Cleanliness
Disliked: Staff & service

Nicht zu empfehlen

Das Hotel war ok aber leider wurde der Aufenthalt durch den extrem schlechten Service getrübt. Schon beim Check in kam man sich lästig vor. Auf freundliche Anfragen bekamen wir ausschließlich pampige Antworten. Egal von welchem Service Mitarbeiter. Um 7:04 Uhr durften wir uns am Buffet mit der Hand bedienen da das Personal noch in der Küche am quatschen war und das Buffet noch nicht fertig angerichtet war. Wir wollten uns eigentlich 2 Tage erholen. Fehlanzeige! Ich werde dieses Hotel sicher nie wieder besuchen! Preis Leistung geht gar nicht!
Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2018
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Komfortables, sehr sauberes Hotel

Sehr freundliches Personal, das Essen war ausgezeichnet, die Aufmerksamkeit der Mitarbeiter in jedem Bereich perfekt! Entspanntes Ambiente zum Wohlfühlen und Relaxen
Verified

8/10 Good

Radschif

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Der Aufenthalt hat sich gelohnt.

Der Aufenthalt hat sich gelohnt .Kann es nur weiter empfehlen.
Verified

8/10 Good

Hansruedi

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Erholsamer Kurzurlaub

Leider nur 3 Tage. Die Leute im Service waren sehr nett.
Verified

4/10 Poor

Klaus

Disliked: Staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Schon einigermaßen verwohnt.

War nur eine Nacht, trotzdem maßlos enttäuscht. Uns wurde kaum der Weg zum Zimmer gezeigt. Gepäck selbst getragen. Hinweise zum Frühstück ert auf Nachfrage.
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Awesome Hotel

Hotel is perfect. No complaints. Staff is superb!! It is not in the "city center" as implied on the website. It is a €15-€20 taxi ride each way into the downtown of Oberstaufen. I would definitely stay there again!
Verified

8/10 Good

Erwin

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

gutes Hotel zum entspannen, empfehlenswert

Schönes Hotel mit sehr freundlichem Service und Essen mit einem guten Preis/Leistungsverhältnis
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Ruedi

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Schöne Umgebund

Sehr nettes Personal. Umgebung traumhaft schön.
Verified

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Staff & service, room comfort
Disliked: Cleanliness

Hübsches Hotel in den Bergen!

Der Aufenthalt war sehr schön, Massage hervorragend, hallenbad in ordnung!
Verified

10/10 Excellent

Brock

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Exceptional Service!

Fantastic venue for business or a holiday retreat. In our case, we were on business and running extremely late due to client commitments. Our wonderful host waited until 12:30 in the morning to allow us to check in - despite check-in closing at 10:00pm.
Verified

8/10 Good

Hannelore

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service
Schöne Umgebung, sehr viele Anregungen für Ausflüge und kostenlose Nutzungen im Ort und der Umgebung
Verified

10/10 Excellent

heiko

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Gerne wieder.

Urlaub zum Wandern und Relaxen. Schöne Umgebung und professioneller Service
Verified

8/10 Good

Pierre

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Très bien

Bel établissement , très bon accueil , très belle piscine ,séjour très agréable
Verified

10/10 Excellent

omar

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

accogliente

albergo accogliente e pulito con molti servizi camere molto grandi e ben arredate
Verified

8/10 Good

Renate

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

Entspannung pur in idyllischer Bergwelt

Habe spontan 3 Nächte im Ludwig Royal verbracht und wollte eigentlich nur ein wenig Wellness. Abar dann war die Bergwelt im Juni so verlockend, dass ich viel mehr draußen als drinnen verbracht habe. Mein Zimmer war wirklich königlich eingerichtet. Ich hatte nur Frühstück, was sehr lecker vom Buffet war. Der Wellnessbereich (Schimmbad,Saunen, usw. ) war sehr großzügig. Die Anwendungen sollten aber rechtzeitig im Voraus gebucht werden, da es sonst sein kann, dass man nichts mehr bekommt.
Verified

8/10 Good

Christian

Liked: Staff & service, room comfort

Gutes Hotel, tolle Erholung

Sehr hilfsbereites und freundliches Personal. Der Hoteldirektor hat für jeden Gast ein offenes Ohr. Wir legen sehr grossen Wert auf ein gutes Frühstück. Das Frühstück im Hotel lässt keine Wünsche offen. Ein kleiner Kritikpunkt haben wir, schade ist die Sauna erst ab 14h in Betrieb, denn nicht jeder Gast geht Skifahren es gibt auch Gäste die zur Erholung im Hotel sind.
Verified

8/10 Good

Ulrich

Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort

Value for money

Preisleistungsverhältnis ist gut